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Wesley van Drongelen's avatar

A good example of how “Russia, in that sense, matters less than what it represents” is precisely the whole COVID-sceptic scene, hailing Russia as some kind of paradise while most of the country had been in lockdown and restricted access to events and restaurants to vaccinated people via QR code just like the Western countries they so despise for it. But as you point out, although it’s mind-bogglingly illogical, none of that matters: what matters is the utopian (I will even say delusional) view of Russia as some kind of conservative paradise. The BBC recently had an article about disillusioned émigrés: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn075j04pnyo . Of course, I can’t judge how representative these cases are, but they do show a certain “you don’t know what you’ve got ‘till it’s gone” dynamic at play as well.

Deep Bitcheese Brew's avatar

This is a very insightful way of taking these migrants seriously, not as naïve victims of propaganda, but as people making coherent choices about the kind of moral and political order they want to inhabit.

It also raises a question for me: would they make the same choice if they had to enter Russia on the same terms as ordinary Russians, with no easy exit, or only at very high personal cost?

This seems connected to your essay on Thiel. If people genuinely possess freedom of choice and exit, countries may begin to look like products in a marketplace: one could shop for the political, cultural, and moral environment one prefers. But sovereignty complicates that analogy. A consumer can stop buying a product. Can a citizen really stop belonging to a state?

Perhaps this is precisely a goal worth pursuing for liberals. A world in which states could genuinely be “shopped for” might be closer to a liberal utopia: anyone could choose where to live according to their political ideals and ideological preferences, and could leave again at any time. There would no longer be “illegal immigrants,” prohibitions on working, detention, or deportation. The decisive freedom would not simply be the freedom to choose a country, but the freedom to exit it after the choice has been made.

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